This is dangerous theology and I fear that many churches fall for some version of this Christianity which is not Christianity at all. Churches who throw out the traditional truths of the Bible (all of the Bible) are easily influenced by the world. “Woke” churches are just as dangerous. Happy 2025!
I have heard this before when I was much younger. I rejected it because I knew God never fails to fulfill any promises. Paul also said gentiles are grafted in the Judaic scriptures. Many Nazi exit today . I didn’t know it until I was bombarded by them over a comment I made supporting Israel and having a favorable view of Jews. It is warped and twisted to say the church has replaced Israel. It also ignorant. To hold this view of the church superseding israel is to be in league with satan . Foolish and most unwise .
And also consider the "early church fathers" and their antisemitism upon which Hitler based his Nazi ways. Here are a couple of free resources for anyone interested.
Do you find replacement theology a part of or the basis for the doctrine of election as expressed in the majority of American churches? Where in the Bible can I find any Gentiles explicitly called the elect?
I did read the article. It's well written. I tend to think the doctrine of election is a subtle form of supersessionism. People get dragged into it without realizing they're being deceived. You touch on this in your article as well. I find Israel being explicitly called the Elect, and I find Christ called Elect, but I cannot find Gentiles called The Elect.
Dr. Michael Heiser wrote a series of articles on election which I think are of value to anyone who wants to know more about replacement theology and it's presence in the Church.
Election has nothing to do with replacement theology. Election is just Giod choosing who will join Him in heaven. He chose Israel as a nation and He chooses individuals today. One does not replace the other. God shows mercy on who He will show mercy and that includes both Jew and gentile, nor one over the other.
Can you show me where Gentiles are explicitly called the elect in Scripture? For instance, God calls the Jews His elect explicitly in Isaiah 45:4. For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
Election is never found to be the equivalent of salvation. The two are entirely different. You see this evidenced in (2 Timothy 2:10) Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
The passage points out that the elect "might" obtain salvation, not that it is guaranteed because they are the elect.
The terms "elect" and "election" with God are closely related but distinct:
Elect: Refers to individuals or groups chosen by God for a specific purpose or destiny, such as the Jews as His chosen people or believers in Christ being chosen for salvation (e.g., Romans 8:33).
Election: Describes the act of God choosing or predestining individuals or groups for a particular role or salvation according to His divine plan (e.g., Ephesians 1:4-5). It emphasizes God's sovereignty in making these choices.
Good article. I liked how you tied replacement theology to Hitlers Bible because it shows where this belief leads and demonstrates how it's author, Satan, pushes it in its extreme and more tame forms, but both are lies that destroy.
The Third Temple is a concept deeply rooted in biblical prophecy and Jewish tradition, symbolizing a future place of worship in Jerusalem on the Temple Mount. Historically, the First and Second Temples served as central points for Jewish worship until their destruction.
Many believe the Third Temple will fulfill prophecies in Ezekiel, Daniel, and Revelation, with some expecting it to herald the Messianic Age or Christ’s return. Renewing animal sacrifices as part of temple worship, as outlined in the Torah and elaborated in the Talmud, is a significant aspect of this belief, though it raises modern ethical and theological debates.
Current efforts, such as those by the Temple Institute, show a continued longing for its realization, making the Third Temple a topic that bridges faith, prophecy, and contemporary geopolitical complexities.
Hmmm,that has been main line beliefs, since Darby and Scofield ,what about l Corinthians 3:16? We are the temple! At Christ’s crucifixion the veil was torn top to bottom giving everyone access to the holy of holy. A generation later the temple was destroyed not one stone left on another. Father God made it clear the cross ended OT temple worship. Please investigate what the Talmud says about non Jews.
“Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.”
It is true that the perfect sacrice of Jesus on the cross ended the need for sacrifice and the physical temple, but the Bjble specifically talks about a new temple, resumption of sacrifices, then sacrifices stop when the abomination of desolation (antichrist) sets himself up as God in the new temple in the middle of the tribulation.
Hmm, check out 1 Cor 3:16-17. Not sure the Lord would allow 2 paths to worship and find Jesus. Please consider that the Bible was written FOR us not TO us. Do an in depth study of Scofield, Darby and the inspiration Darby used to invent dispensationalism. Blessings
I'm not saying there are two ways to God and 1 Cor 3:16-17 doesn't change the fact that the Bible clearly talks about a 3rd temple during the end times. Christians being the temple of God is not mutually exclusive with a physical temple being built by the Jews.
Instead of reading what men say about the Bible, I'll stick to reading the Bible and trusting in the clear meaning of God's word.
This is dangerous theology and I fear that many churches fall for some version of this Christianity which is not Christianity at all. Churches who throw out the traditional truths of the Bible (all of the Bible) are easily influenced by the world. “Woke” churches are just as dangerous. Happy 2025!
100% Lori. This is Satan's theology.
I have heard this before when I was much younger. I rejected it because I knew God never fails to fulfill any promises. Paul also said gentiles are grafted in the Judaic scriptures. Many Nazi exit today . I didn’t know it until I was bombarded by them over a comment I made supporting Israel and having a favorable view of Jews. It is warped and twisted to say the church has replaced Israel. It also ignorant. To hold this view of the church superseding israel is to be in league with satan . Foolish and most unwise .
100%
And also consider the "early church fathers" and their antisemitism upon which Hitler based his Nazi ways. Here are a couple of free resources for anyone interested.
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Do you find replacement theology a part of or the basis for the doctrine of election as expressed in the majority of American churches? Where in the Bible can I find any Gentiles explicitly called the elect?
Did you read the article? It is the base for replacement theology.
I did read the article. It's well written. I tend to think the doctrine of election is a subtle form of supersessionism. People get dragged into it without realizing they're being deceived. You touch on this in your article as well. I find Israel being explicitly called the Elect, and I find Christ called Elect, but I cannot find Gentiles called The Elect.
Dr. Michael Heiser wrote a series of articles on election which I think are of value to anyone who wants to know more about replacement theology and it's presence in the Church.
https://drmsh.com/category/biblical-theology-doctrine/election/
Just wanted to know before engaging. That is a good question...I will do some more checking. Thanks for the link.
Election has nothing to do with replacement theology. Election is just Giod choosing who will join Him in heaven. He chose Israel as a nation and He chooses individuals today. One does not replace the other. God shows mercy on who He will show mercy and that includes both Jew and gentile, nor one over the other.
Can you show me where Gentiles are explicitly called the elect in Scripture? For instance, God calls the Jews His elect explicitly in Isaiah 45:4. For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
Election is never found to be the equivalent of salvation. The two are entirely different. You see this evidenced in (2 Timothy 2:10) Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
The passage points out that the elect "might" obtain salvation, not that it is guaranteed because they are the elect.
The terms "elect" and "election" with God are closely related but distinct:
Elect: Refers to individuals or groups chosen by God for a specific purpose or destiny, such as the Jews as His chosen people or believers in Christ being chosen for salvation (e.g., Romans 8:33).
Election: Describes the act of God choosing or predestining individuals or groups for a particular role or salvation according to His divine plan (e.g., Ephesians 1:4-5). It emphasizes God's sovereignty in making these choices.
Good article. I liked how you tied replacement theology to Hitlers Bible because it shows where this belief leads and demonstrates how it's author, Satan, pushes it in its extreme and more tame forms, but both are lies that destroy.
So what is your stance on the third temple? Renewing animal sacrifices, the Talmud?
The Third Temple is a concept deeply rooted in biblical prophecy and Jewish tradition, symbolizing a future place of worship in Jerusalem on the Temple Mount. Historically, the First and Second Temples served as central points for Jewish worship until their destruction.
Many believe the Third Temple will fulfill prophecies in Ezekiel, Daniel, and Revelation, with some expecting it to herald the Messianic Age or Christ’s return. Renewing animal sacrifices as part of temple worship, as outlined in the Torah and elaborated in the Talmud, is a significant aspect of this belief, though it raises modern ethical and theological debates.
Current efforts, such as those by the Temple Institute, show a continued longing for its realization, making the Third Temple a topic that bridges faith, prophecy, and contemporary geopolitical complexities.
Hmmm,that has been main line beliefs, since Darby and Scofield ,what about l Corinthians 3:16? We are the temple! At Christ’s crucifixion the veil was torn top to bottom giving everyone access to the holy of holy. A generation later the temple was destroyed not one stone left on another. Father God made it clear the cross ended OT temple worship. Please investigate what the Talmud says about non Jews.
The temple (Jesus) was rebuilt.
“Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.”
1 Corinthians 3:16-17 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/1co.3.16-17.ESV
LOL...for a sec I thought you were throwing a trick question. Been up since 4:00...right now it is 10:00.
You are 100% correct.
Time to go to bed.
I’m not sure what you mean, I don’t want to be preachy, do you attend an organization church body?
It is true that the perfect sacrice of Jesus on the cross ended the need for sacrifice and the physical temple, but the Bjble specifically talks about a new temple, resumption of sacrifices, then sacrifices stop when the abomination of desolation (antichrist) sets himself up as God in the new temple in the middle of the tribulation.
Hmm, check out 1 Cor 3:16-17. Not sure the Lord would allow 2 paths to worship and find Jesus. Please consider that the Bible was written FOR us not TO us. Do an in depth study of Scofield, Darby and the inspiration Darby used to invent dispensationalism. Blessings
I'm not saying there are two ways to God and 1 Cor 3:16-17 doesn't change the fact that the Bible clearly talks about a 3rd temple during the end times. Christians being the temple of God is not mutually exclusive with a physical temple being built by the Jews.
Instead of reading what men say about the Bible, I'll stick to reading the Bible and trusting in the clear meaning of God's word.
Hey, all’s good, really enjoyed the back n forth. Love to continue….