Genesis 8: Testing the Clocks — What JesusPlusZero Leaves Out
The purpose of this article is to expose Geoffrey Stroud and his JesusPlusZERO cult teachings.
The purpose of this article is to expose Geoffrey Stroud and his JesusPlusZERO cult teachings.
Geoff Stroud: My Genesis 8 commentary will help you abandon any ideas of an Earth that is billions of years old. No theology here, just the facts of the narrative Hebrew text, and using our brains to connect the dots.
Note: Stroud is correct…the earth is NOT billions of years old…but his lack of understanding of Gods Word…is still just as faulty. His lack of understanding shows.
Geoff tells his readers to be like the Bereans, to test what he teaches against Scripture. So let’s actually do that to his own article, “Genesis 8: The Chronological Clocks of Genesis.” Plain language, his words against Scripture’s words, and a straight verdict on each claim.
Acts 17:11 KJV “These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”
“Whether those things were so.” Not whether they sound confident. Not whether the writer sounds sure of himself. Whether they’re so. Here’s what happens when you actually check.
What Geoff got right
Say this plainly first, because it matters. Geoff’s calendar math is accurate:
Genesis 7:11 KJV “In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up.”
Genesis 8:4 KJV “And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.”
Second month, seventeenth day, to seventh month, seventeenth day. Five months. Genesis 7:24 says that’s 150 days. The math holds. That’s real, and it’s fair.
Now here’s where it stops being fair.
What Geoff did: built a “zero transition” claim by leaving out the one verse that breaks it
Geoff says: “There is zero grammatical transition, shift in style, or literary boundary between the ‘days’ of Genesis 1, the genealogies of Genesis 5, and the calendar dates of Genesis 8.”
That’s the claim his whole argument stands on. Here’s the text he skips over to make it work:
Genesis 2:2-3 KJV “And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.”
Days one through six in Genesis 1 all close the same way: “and there was evening and there was morning.” Day seven doesn’t. That formula is missing. That’s not a small thing to leave out of an article claiming “zero” difference in structure — it’s the one clear structural difference sitting in the passage he’s building his case on. Hebrews 4 picks this exact gap up:
Hebrews 4:9-11 KJV “There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.”
Hebrews treats that seventh day as still open. You don’t write “zero transition” and mean it if you haven’t dealt with the one verse that shows a transition. He didn’t deal with it. He didn’t mention it at all.
What this means: the claim isn’t a lie, but it isn’t accurate either. It’s built by not looking at the evidence that complicates it. That’s the first thing to flag clearly for readers — he presented a “zero” claim without doing the work to check if it was actually zero.
What Geoff did: quoted Exodus 20:11 but skipped the verse that answers his own argument
Geoff says: “If the days of Genesis 1 were actually millions of years long, the commandment becomes completely irrational... The analogy only functions if the structural units of time are identical.”
That’s a strong claim: identical units or the whole command falls apart. Scripture has something direct to say about whether God’s days and human days have to match:
2 Peter 3:8 KJV “Be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
This verse exists specifically to correct the assumption Geoff is making. It’s not obscure. It’s one of the most quoted verses in this exact debate, on both sides. An article built to be “airtight” on the Exodus 20:11 argument and never mentions 2 Peter 3:8 isn’t airtight. It’s incomplete, and readers deserve to know that.
What Geoff did: stretched Romans 5:12 past what it actually says
Geoff says: “God is the author of disease and suffering... This strips the gospel of its foundational logic.”
Romans 5:12 KJV “By one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”
Read it. “Death passed upon all men.” Men. The verse is about human death through human sin. Geoff uses it to cover all animal death, all disease, everywhere, before Adam ever existed. Paul didn’t write that. Geoff added it, then used his own addition to accuse anyone who disagrees with him of undermining the gospel. That’s building an accusation on a foundation he constructed himself, not on what the verse says.
What this adds up to
Here’s what people need to see clearly: three times in this one article, Geoff makes an absolute claim — “zero transition,” “the analogy only functions if identical,” “strips the gospel of its foundational logic” — and three times, the verse that would test that claim is missing from the piece. Not disagreed with. Not addressed and rebutted. Missing. Not mentioned once.
That’s not a style problem. That’s how you get an article that reads as flawless to someone who doesn’t go check the references — because the reader never sees the verses that would complicate the picture. The confidence in the writing isn’t coming from the strength of the case. It’s coming from what got left out of it.
That’s what a Berean is for. Not to take “flawless” and “airtight” at face value because they’re said with conviction. To go look. And when you go look here, the picture isn’t flawless. It’s a real observation about a 150-day calendar, wrapped in three claims that don’t hold up once you bring in the verses Geoff didn’t bring in himself.
Where this actually leaves you
None of this touches whether Christ rose from the dead. It touches whether Geoff Stroud did the work he claims to have done in this article. He didn’t. Test everything, this piece included. Hold what’s true. Set aside what isn’t. And when a teacher builds “zero doubt” arguments by leaving out the very verses that would create doubt, that’s worth naming plainly, every time you see it.
Matthew Adams, MyR2B Ministries Cult Watch.